Mens Vintage Brown Leather Kent-Dunbar Dress Shoes Size 8 Oxford The size is from the 480 number inside. They are 11" long inside, 4" wide on bottom. Also, Please feel free to ask questions before you buy. Thanks for shopping at the Cats Pajamas! CONDITION: All items are sold as is and leave from a smoke-free, pet-free environment. Unless noted, there are no smells or flaws. SHIPPING: We offer 2 day handling normally and can send Express or FedEx as well. We can combine shipping, and if that doesn't work thru the system, put items in a cart and request an invoice. INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING: Please note, you will be responsible for import taxes or other customs fees (if applicable) for your package. We cannot provide inaccurate information to customs officials. Satisfaction GUARANTEED! Miss Kitty knows it is hard to buy items with just our ( sometimes) great photos and a witty description. About Us: The Cats Pajamas has been in operation since 1980 and on-line since 1996. Miss Kitty has built a completely devoted clientele, including clothing designers, film costume designers, and lots of wonderful customers like you! Please, let me know if there are any issues with your order. LOVE RETRO!